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a plane with stand 200 volts per square meter of energy coming off of a device. and an ipad puts off .00006 microvolts. you had needyou would need a football team of ipads to crate something that planes cannot handle. >> gavin: so what is it? >> red tape. >> gavin: a bundle of caution? >> no, back 03 30 years people were using radio frequency devices that probably did interfere with the noise levels of the pilot. but planes are very different and there are fcc rules and it's just the government being the government. >> gavin: you expect the government to no longer be the government in 2013? what's the trendline? >> there has been a lot of push back. i have not stopped writing about this. i've been relentless. last week the fcc urged the faa to change this. this is hurting consumers as far as productivity. this week the senator from missouri said if the faa does not tart start to look into this in a quicker fashion they'll start legislation. >> gavin: i could not support that more being on the plane as much as i am. twitter,. >> 2014, i'm writing a book, it will be out next year about
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